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PostSubject: Evolution of Eye   Evolution of Eye EmptyTue May 13, 2008 6:05 pm

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This is a response I made to the claim ;


The biggest flaw of evolution is the gap between human eye and other speacies,it is so complex and accurate and flawless that it must have been design intelligently.




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I'm going to cover all aspects from accuracy to complexity....



But before that :

The Claim : Something is too complex or accurate => it must be created or intelgently designed



This is a logical fallacy ; I can't understand something => What I think is true.c.


Behe,himself says :

Quote :
The peril of negative arguments is that they may rest on our lack of knowledge, rather than on positive results. (Behe2003)


http://www.arn.org/docs2/news/behepseudogene052003.htm


Before understanding the lightings "gods" were responsible for lighting,diseases were
caused by curses not germs.


Darwin ;


Quote :
Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect andcomplex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being usefulto its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does varyever so slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainlythe case; and if any variation or modification in the organ be everuseful to an animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself first originated; but I may remark that several facts make me suspect that any sensitive nerve may be rendered sensitive to light, and likewise to those coarser vibrations of the air which produce sound. (Darwin 1872, 143-144)



Darwin continues with three more pages describing a sequence of plausible intermediate stages between eyelessness and human eyes, giving examples
from existing organisms to show that the intermediates are viable.

http://www.carm.org/evo_questions/darwineye.htm


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You also said there is a GIANT gap;let's see what we have in the nature


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  • * photosensitive cell
  • * aggregates of pigment cells without a nerve
  • * an optic nerve surrounded by pigment cells and covered by translucent skin
  • * pigment cells forming a small depression
  • * pigment cells forming a deeper depression
  • * the skin over the depression taking a lens shape
  • * muscles allowing the lens to adjust


I don't see any giant gap.



Evolution of eye (video) ;



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/01/1/l_011_01.html


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Accuracy :

For example, birds of prey have much greater visual acuity than humans, and some can see ultraviolet light.



Color Vision:


Human eyes respond to light with wavelength in the range of approximately 400
to 700 nm. Other animals have other ranges, with many such as birds
including a significant ultraviolet (shorter than 400 nm) response.


Mantis shrimp totally pwns any other animal,since their eyes have more
than ten different classes of visual pigments.Also the superposition
compound eyes of Mantis shrimps give enable it to enjoy from one of the
highest resolution eyes.






Mechanism :

Well mechanism of mammals eyes is where we can clearly see the poor design ;The structure of humans' (as well as all mammals') eyes. The retina is 'inside out'. The nerves and blood vessels lie on the surface of the retina instead of behind it as
is the case in many invertebrate species. This arrangement forces a number of complex adaptations and gives mammals a blind spot. (SeeEvolution of the eye). Six muscles move the eye when three would suffice.

Evolution of Eye Ck_eyeanatomy

Utah
http://webvision.med.utah.edu/2003-01Kolb.pdf




Perception :
individual eye of the mantis shrimp has depth perception and trinocular vision. In contrast, we humans require both of our eyes for depth perception and binocular vision.


Science Daily :

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080320120732.htm

Wired :

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/03/all-hail-the-ma.html

Berkley U :

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/04/21_shrimp.shtml




Not taking into account ;


Western Michigan University (Poor Design of human eye)

http://www.geology.wmich.edu/haas/geos2000/6s.pdf

Test your blind spot :

Evolution of Eye Schematiceye

more :

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/blindspot1.html

Astigmatism,Short sightedness ,Long sightedness,Presbyopia ,Open angle glaucoma,Angle closure glaucoma,......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_eye_diseases_and_disorders[img][/img]
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